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Q & A on Relationships
Dear Ms. Vicki,
I met a friend now over a year ago who is married. We met out one night in a club and ended up dancing and conversating and really just hanging out until the person I was seeing at the time showed up. At the time, my new friend expressed to me the reason he, being married was out and about without his wife. Basically (Yeah, Sunshine, “heard it all before”), among other things he claimed that things were not all that bad, but if they were all that good he would be home with her….. We did not initially exchange numbers, under the impression we would eventually run into each other again and hang out similar to what we did on the night we met. It was another 2 months before we saw each other again, but again, I was out with my significant other and he was with his boys so we did not have the opportunity to really even speak – for one, I was not sure if he was the same guy I had met two months ago, and two he didn’t want to cause any misunderstandings with my friend by speaking. The third time (the charm) I saw him again was in the place we initially met, now 6 months later. We saw each other, instantly remembered each other, exchanged numbers and started hanging out. Well what started out as a strictly platonic friendship has turned into something neither one of us was expecting.
We now travel together, he tells me no one has ever affected him like I have; no one has ever been to me who and what he is and I was married for 12 long, drawn out years; he is strong, but gentle; romantic; he cooks, cleans, and is the perfect end to a long day. We’ve experienced things together that apart, neither of us have ever seen nor done before. He is always the perfect gentleman and together our chemistry is off the charts, but at the end of the day he is still married. How do I do what is right when my heart is so far left?
Confused and In the wrong love, at the wrong time….
Dear Confused:
What you have is a huge mess!! Neither one of you had any business even exchanging numbers in the first place. Now that you have created this mess, it is time to clean it up. And now is the time to start.
First, I believe that people come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. Nothing or no one is by happenstance. It is up to us to sit still long enough to determine why that person is in our lives. When we move while on the cusp of our emotional being without clear direction, it makes a sticky situation worse and makes a worse situation seemingly impossible to maneuver. Now, it is going to take more than a notion to get back to the center of this and to see the real reason this person has crossed your path. You need to re-open your eyes. I know that will be difficult at best to do, now that your heart is leading the way.
Unfortunately, no matter what I say today, your heart is going to lead you down a path of its own. You are not Confused - you are going to do exactly what you want to do anyway… I know you have asked your girlfriends this very same question, what you need me to do is substantiate their responses. I am not; what I am going to say is this: when you get enough, you will move one way or the other. It is going to end bad for everyone involved, because everyone is going to lose in the end. What you think you will gain in hoping he leaves his home for you, will be replaced by his resentment the first sign of you turning into “her”. It is inevitable, while we are in the “honeymoon” phase, we are getting to know the other person and we still have our game face on; then, it’s
ALL GOOD!!! As soon as the honeymoon is over, things begin to change and the real person finally shows up to dinner.
Unfortunately, society as a whole has changed. Marriage today is completely different from what it was even ten years ago. It is now okay or the “thing to do” to have extra-marital affairs; after all “it’s cheaper to keep her”. Even our own individual upbringing and backgrounds play an important role in what we deem as acceptable and tolerable in relationships. Doesn’t make the actions in this situation justified; it is what it is. In the meantime, emotionally you have created a train wreck and now it’s not just you and him, it is you, him, her and the rest of both families as this thing move toward the point of no return.
Harsh but real – unfortunately that is the end of my journey with you on this. Remember what is done in the dark always comes to light. Just be ready to deal with the consequences of that light. Keep me posted on the results, as I am curious as to how this will turn out.
“Ms. Vicky”
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Comments
Understand
21 Apr 2008, 11:54
I totally understand where your coming from "confused" because I'm in a
similiar if not the same situation and its going on two years. Only
difference mines started off as a no strings attached situation and I didnt
know that he was married until 6 mths later and it wasnt voluntarily
information but a crazy encounter in which he denied who I was to my face.
True I should have left it alone right then and there but I didnt. Now
feelings are involved.... my feelings. What I would think is the man of my
dreams in reality was a test of my faith which I failed. "Ms. Vicky" is
right its not only you and him, its you him his family your family and in
the end if not done right, if anyones going to lose it will definitely be
you. The guy I see claims he stays in a marriage that he is unhappy with
because of his kids a lie just like all the other lies he and every other
man gives. Even if he left his family I would feel guilty and I would be
blamed even if it wasnt because of me. I have this guilt trip that I will
never be in a good relationship so let me be the best side piece I can be
but I'm just lying to myself I want more and the truth is its not that he
cant give me more he refuses to and if thats the case can I really think
this is anything more than what everyone else sees it as. Truly think about
what the two of you have done and small reactions that proves he is not
into you as he claims. Are you a secret? And think about the consequences
if this went any further? This is a decision you can only make on your own.
Yeah others are going to give their opinion but at the end of the day the
decision is yours. And it will be a hard one. For me I'm just about
through, yeah I'm going to hurt but I've been hurting for a long time and I
dont want to be the other woman anymore.
The same boat
22 Apr 2008, 08:45
I was too in the same boat,they all seem to be the same people.I fell
inlove wih a man that i thought was single and ready for commitment. He had
me fooled for months and even after he called himself telling me the truth
he still made like they were seperated and it was a likey story because
nothing changed so i didnt really get why he was telling me he was still
with me and i mean nothing changed we were together all the time and yes
ladies even the nights we were in the bed together. I was fooled and fooled
really good. But it came to a end when she finally called and told me she
got my messeges i left him when he was at work and how i missed him and
could not wait until he came home to me.Yes i was really hurt i thought he
was truthful about how he felt about me and the funny part he was telling
me that she just showed up and she is mad because he has moved on. You
guessed it i believed him and just and went on dating him. Until one day
for my birthday he did not call all day then when he did he could not talk
to me and to top it off he said he had no money,i knew it was a lie and
this was when i realized she is still there and he is making sure that the
family that he has with her is taken care of. To make a long story short
he told me lies after that about how his daughter will miss him too much if
he doesnt stay with his wife but he wanted to be friends.Being in love with
him i excepted it,until he told me that he is goin to make it work with
her and in so many words that he did not speak to hell with me and the new
kids in his life. So once again im single and this time will wait for God
to send me a really nice single man. I hav eto stay strong and ways from
the friends that we have together if want to get over this crazy stuff. I
love HIM BUT i LOVE ME TOO
Beth Smith
23 Apr 2008, 13:17
It is not cheaper to keep her. The problem is that many men are too greedy
to split the profits down the middle and go on to the new honey. Women
keep in mind that it is the sneaking around that is the turn on. You can
call the wife all you want to. Yes, she may leave him but you get him just
long enough for him to find a new gig, someone else to sneak with. If you
are turned on by a man that is married, could it be cause he is settled,
calmer, more caring, cleans, etc. Keep in mind that partnership he is in
has taught him that. A good man is made by a good women. Don't assume he
will be a good man to you. If you want my man you can have him. Just let
me know what months you paying the rent and the days you cooking on and we
can work something out. Nothing comes for free. Don't be too cheap to
invest in a relationship on your own. A good man is hard to find. Bad men
are everywhere and yes, some of them are married. Let me leave you with a
tip. Your husband is not at the club. He is at the theatre, farmers
market, grocery store, etc. I know too many men looking for good women and
they don't frequent the club. This tip is free.
Yayoupeep
25 Apr 2008, 07:28
I like and agree with Beth Smith's comment. I have been married for almost
three years and I can't wait for the day when I can get out because of my
husband's unfaithfulness. What beats me most of the times I think of it is
that he cheated with her before we were married they broke up and even
ended up in courts and he went back to meet her after we were married. He
seems to love her. What you think? I think he should go to her and stay
but you and I know he will not stay with her because he is going to do her
the same thing and or even worst.
KIRK
27 Apr 2008, 01:14
Here we go Again,
Ladies why do you keep falling for the same old things. Key words that a
light should come on here: I am not happy, separated, home alone, just need
someone to talk to, you are so pretty, I like talking to you or you
understand me. on and on and on, you get with these marry men why? I'll
tell you why because you want someone to easy your pain and emotion and
stress you are going threw at the time. So Mr sound so good come along, and
the funny part after talking to MR sound so good something in the back of
your head tell you something is not right ,but what you do give him your
number then ask him or let him come over once inthe door of your apartment
,home all doors are open just a matter of time even the door between your
legs.A man will play on your emotions for as long as he is interested in
the prize right a prize is all it is and will forever be a prize,
because after he finish with you he's looking for another prize as he drive
home. Why get mad on here you the one let him in , he fix your temp problem
of stress need some and may have help you pay a bill or two. HELP YOURSELF
AND TAKE THE TIME TO FIND A GOOD SINGLE MA AND IF YOU DON'T WELL GET YOUR
FIX NEED SOME AND MOVE ON LIKE HE WILL. THANK YOU ........form a brotha
sista
terri
27 Apr 2008, 16:54
Wow, you have to read this article, really...
T
Darlene
28 Apr 2008, 11:35
All I have to say is I'm NOT the OTHER WOMAN but the WIFE. Believe me
ladies, we are not always holding onto them as they would have you believe.
My husband stepped out on me for two years with a "sista from the church"
if that don't beat all. Someone whom I would have to look at from time to
time during our travels. I gave her the benefit of the doubt in the
beginning because I didn't know her nor she, me. But when I FINALLY spoke
with her and let her know he was lying to her, she decided to continue to
disrespect not just herself, but me and my children. Long story short,
he's still with me in his so-called "miserable, don't want to be with her
marriage" - yeah right!!! Again - no chains, his choice. I was so caught
up with the drama that I have to admit that my emotional state was
homicidal. I totally can attest to how some people really get caught up
making the wrong decision at a split second. Thank God that I allowed Him
to gain control of my life and thoughts because to have allowed myself to
be imprisoned for someone who obviously didn't really have love for
themselves, much less me and mine, but managed to pull me into the middle
of chaos would have been crazy. I had to realize that I needed to love me
first so that I would be around to love my children. To hell with him
and/or her. And in the end of the ride that I'm assuming she finally got
off after realizing his lies (who knows, maybe she is still lirking), she
wasted two years of her life, not to mention allowing herself to also
disrespect her children by laying in the bed with someone elses husband in
front of them playing house. All I can say is don't believe the hype. The
"wife" is not always a stalker and unwanted in these situations as they
would have you believe. Nor are they only there for their children. When
my husband came back and forth in the home, the children was his last
thoughts. Getting between my legs were first. Not bragging because it
took a lot out of me that I allowed myself to deal with it all. Truth be
told, I wish I would have been the one to walk away first and let her keep
the misery. There are no winners in this type of drama, believe that. All
I really got in the end and had all the time were the benefits. And
if/when I move on believe you me there will be an extensive background
check. I vowed that I would NEVER do to another woman what she allowed
herself to do to my family. I will not allow myself to listen to the b.s.
about "we're not together" etc. I will need to see personally THE DIVORCE
PAPERS! Problem is, even then it sometimes is not really over.
tamela
28 Apr 2008, 12:31
WOW
Darlene you have it together and Beth Smith I agree with you both and
understand your thoughts on the situation. You both seem like mature
women. Help a sista out please, because I am a young in this boat called
"marriage." My husband has cheated justified it by saying that they are
business meetings or lunches, stayed out all night and not returning until
the next morning, (keep in mind hes a preacher). And I just had his child
2 months ago. I am trying to just let it go and let God, but it is hard.
Any suggestions as how to move on and keep going for the sake of my child
and child only with out cussing him out everyday or when I feel the need.
Any suggestions for a young woman like me?
Thanks
Yayoupeep
28 Apr 2008, 17:32
Sorry to come back again so soon. However, Darlene I am so happy a child
is not part of my marriage because I am leaving this time. He has no
respect and neither does your Preacher Husband.
Do you think that you could have taken it if you were on the other side of
the fence? Hello no!
KIRK
28 Apr 2008, 18:35
SEEM MORE OF YOU LADIES NEED TO READ WHAT I PUT HERE BEFORE, IT'S THERE!!!!
READ!!! :)
Darlene
29 Apr 2008, 07:45
Tamela
Don't for a moment think I have it together. I still find that I feel the
wrath of what I "allowed" myself to go thru, and I'm gonna be the first
tokeep it real. That old saying "life is what you make it"- true
statement!!. Because as long as we "allow" these men to bring the drama to
our lives they WILL CONTINUE. If I would have turned him away from the
onset my wounds would have been healed a long time ago. He had the bold
nerve to actually say to me "well one of you will get tired and walk away"
because he "couldn't" bring himself to make a decision. So that's why I'm
assuming that she finally said to hell with it and he settled with me. I
don't for a minute feel gratified that he chose us (his family) over is
hormonial desires. I could be wrong but since he seemed to stay put "at
home" as well as branch out, it only makes me feel as though she put out
for him the things I refused to do. Good - that's what tramps and whores
do (lol). Because as I told her, if she was a woman with any standards and
self-respect, she would have demanded him to come correct by her i.e.,
DIVORCE. Inasmuch as I allowed myself to be a fool to accept the b.s., I
was not the fool in the end - I was simply THE WIFE. So you say you're
young and my only advice to you, don't let your child be your reason or
excuse for putting up with the infidelity. Your child will be happier in
two happy homes (yours and his) than one miserable one. Til this day I
regret not moving on (for the sake of my kids). My kids love their father
but they to are older now and have no respect for him for what he has done
to us and put us through. He'll live to regret it when they are actually
adults and can officially make their own decisions. Love him from a
distance and let him realize what blessing he missed out on for losing what
he should have cherished. As for you Yay - I hear you. It is so much
easier to walk away with no children involved. We as woman should grow to
respect each other enough not to allow these men to bring us down because
trust me - what you sow so shall you reap - TRUE STORY!!!
tamela
29 Apr 2008, 07:48
kirk
it is funny that you say that because before I met my husband,i met a guy
like that and knew that something was wrong. I could never talk to him
after like 8:00pm and he would always want me to meet him at his job or
come to my house. so I prayed and God revealed it when his wife called me
and left a message. I never had sex with him but the night I almost did
was when the phone called came. But my now husband was the perfect
gentlemen when we met.
we as women do need to take the time to really get to know someone,seek God
and wait for Him to reveal it.
Darlene
29 Apr 2008, 08:33
Now how much better can it get than for a man to talk of what "men" do. The
red flag couldn't be brighter than if it was a fire in your eyes. Why
don't women question why they can't ever come to their "man's" house. Why
can they only seem to have a cell phone number to call. Fire burning. At
one point when me and my husband were separated after I had one of my "I
had enough" moments and put him out, I stayed over his apartment (we
obviously were still very married) and I called his wanna play house
mistress from his phone because she had stopped answering my calls coming
from my phone. So now of course she answered 4:00 in the damn morning when
she saw his name. I was like "hello, do you see where I'm calling from? -
Do you see the time? This obviously is not a "drop the kids off" visit.
Stupid is as stupid does, the B still hung on with hopes of his lies to be
a reality. False hope is a mother_ _ _ _ _ _ isn't it. I will end every
comment with the same notation - ASK FOR THE DIVORCE PAPERS LADIES!!!!
Lisa
29 Apr 2008, 10:16
I was once married to a man who could not keep it in his pants. During our
14 year marriage he made two children with two different women. He
eventually left me for one of these women and later found out the grass is
not always greener on the other side. Well, he tried to come back but, by
then I was done. These women who choose to get involved with married men
need to think about the pain you are causing that other woman. She has done
nothing to you to deserve that pain. Also ask your self, if he cheats on
his wife with you..will he cheat on you with somebody else? Answer to that
is yes.
darlene
29 Apr 2008, 13:24
Thank you Lisa. As long as you know. It will be 20 years on May 4 for me
and at this point I am not seeking anyone else to be in my space. As for
my husband who claims he's still around for the kids, but yet argues with
me because he always has to come on to me for sex, he may not want to admit
it but he's actually hurting now. I've learned how to kill him with
kindness. He's now living on edge wondering what my next move might be.
Kaney
30 Apr 2008, 12:38
Ladies stay strong for yourself and your kids. I feel everything that you
all said. I've been in my relationship for 8 years and for the first 5
years I've had to endure my boyfriend cheating on me with this girl from
his past until he got her pregnant 3 years ago. When I left he begged and
cried and pleaded with me so what do I do I believed him gave him another
chance yet again. Since then we've had another child together, still no
marriage in sight - but I'm hanging on hoping! I've noticed in the last
2/12 years since then that's he's changing. He's more settled and homey.
More reliant and believable. I'm not saying that I stopped looking over my
shoulders! NO NEVER - HE'S STILL A MAN! What I want to say Ladies, that
sometimes and very rarely some do change. GOD's blessing to you all and to
myself as well.
Yayoupeep
30 Apr 2008, 16:02
Thank you ladies. I am really enjoying this. While I am disappointed
about what has and is happening to many of us I am very happy that we can
let it out.
Mine told me last night that I can take a man. I told him I don't need his
permission to do that because he did not need mine to "give" a woman. God
will deal with this man, also the Preacher Husband and the others.
Be blessed ladies.
Amber
30 Apr 2008, 18:55
I am the wife. I am sure that my husband lied and is still lying to his
mistress. Telling her that he was unhappy, we argue too much, etc. No! he
just didn't realize that marriage was hard and you have to work thru the
hard times. Just like he's unfaithful to me, he will be unfaithful to her.
What goes around, comes back. He should have NEVER pursued her and SHE
should have never allowed herself get involved with a married man. I know
for a FACT that she knew he was married when she met him, because she met
me before all this started. I know that she has also messed with a married
man before mine. I have spoken to this women a couple of times and she has
lied to me. They are protecting each other. Women watch out for that
because a mistress will protect her "new man"-your husband-in a minute. She
will lie for him. What she doesn't know (like many of you have mentioned)
is that he is still digging me, of course. He still wants sex from me and
we are still sexually active. I know, not good, but it's hard to let go of
years of active sex with your husband. He still says he loves me and says
he doesn't love her. I know I am being lied to, but I want mistresses to
realize that they are being lied to as well. They think that these men are
all theirs, is not still dealing with the wife, and is not still in love
with the wife, but (bomb shell) that is not true. Chances are the man is
not all theirs and he is still messing with the wife or another women. And
a lot of these men are still in love with the wife. He just uses the nice,
calm, giving personality to get what he wants from you (mistress)-sex,
head, etc. After the honeymoon is over (like a woman stated b/4), he will
leave you alone and want his wife back. The woman that has been there when
he didn't have anything. The woman that gave birth to his children. The
woman that kept his head up. The woman that took care of him when he was
sick. The woman that helped make him into the nice, calm, giving man that
you (mistress) are enjoying. People like this will pay for their sins. One
day these mistresses will realize what they have done. It will be too late,
but it will happen. It will come back on them or their daughters, if they
have one or another loved one. God has a way of making people learn from
their mistakes. Some women think that they are so pretty and they can get
any man they want..married men...but if you use your beauty for this...God
could take your beauty away one day by letting you gain weight that you
can't lose or getting a skin condition, etc. And for the men who are using
their sexual parts (penis, etc) to do wrong, GOD could take that away by
making you impotent one day. I've seen both happen w/people I know. I will
continue to pray for myself, my children, my husband, his mistress and all
of you who posted comments.
Flaws n All
30 Apr 2008, 22:29
I agree so much with Darlene and Beth Smith. Darlene as I read your words
so much of my pain rekindled. Ladies we have to start valuing our self
worth! Too many woman have stories similiar to the ones shared on this page
and although each situation is different, whether the female knew that the
man was married before or after feelings evolved. It is important that we
stand up and not allow ourselves to participate in acts such as these. I am
not saying this as an hurt wife but as woman to woman. Before my marriage
and to this day I wouldn't have even thought of dealing with someone elses
man. There are always signs to identify infedilty we just have to stop
lying to ourself and act on what we know to be the truth. As Tamela said
"God will reveal the answers to you" as to whether that person is the one
he has ordained for you. Yes God will heal hurt wounds but before it even
reaches that point (and it will when multiple parties are involved) "SEEK
HIM" he has ALL the answers, we just have to leave our questions and
concerns with him long enough to fix them!!
Amber
01 May 2008, 13:04
Darlene you hit it on the nail in your prev comment. These mistresses
don't believe that the men are stilling sleeping with the wives. My husband
also moved out because I told him to leave. But like I said before, we
still have sex. I have also visited him at his apartment. Yeah, he can
easily say, "oh she just came by to drop off the kids", but the mistress
has no idea that after they go to sleep and I come back over, we are in
another room doing what married couples do. I am not saying that to say I
want to play the game and see how many more times I can *(%^ my husband...I
say that to say, ladies (mistresses) stop thinking that these men are not
sleeping with their wives. Even if they are not living together. He most
likely still wants his wife and is confused about letting her go and moving
on. When they have a mistress that is soooo easy and will do "anything",
yeah they will mess around with you, but they know their jewel is at home.
Also, you mistresses will let this happen because you are looking for love.
You will settle for someone elses boyfriend or husband. You are worth more
than that. Love yourself first and you will find a man that will be single
and love you for you, not love his wife, children, in-laws, AND you.
Mistresses should not be a part of that equation. God did not intend for it
to be that way. In the end, we mature ones know that these husbands realize
one day what pain they've caused, what they have done, and that the "other
woman" was definetly not worth it...when in the beginning he thought she
was.
darlene
01 May 2008, 14:34
Amber and Flaws it is truly a sad situation to even have to attest to these
conditions. I felt like you Flaw, I got on this site by accident because
initially I was sent an email about the guy who talked about passing HIV to
the minors. Somehow I managed to explore the other links and lo and behold
a topic of "my life". So I know the feeling about having the pain
rekindled. And the nerve of your husband Yayou to feel to tell you to
"take a man" to justify his instabilities. You should have taken him right
in his face and let him watch. Believe you me that's something that mine
would never say. Because in spite of what he has done he does the typical
thing and try to reverse it on me like I'm doing something. That's one of
the giveaways that they're too dumb to realize. The bottom line is some
females just don't give a damn. I've listened to enough of Michael
Baisden's topics on this when they blatantly get on the radio and be proud
to be in what they feel is a good spotlight. All it really does is prove
that they are worthless and allow the men to treat them that way. Not
enough going out to dinner, "token gifts" or anything of the sort should
allow you to place yourself as second. Again, the truth be told even if he
is making you feel and believe you are first, as long as their married,
you'll never be first. You need to recognize. I actually found some pics
that I was going to post up in the church with a very kert comment of
"women beware of the homewrecker" lol. Can you imagine of all places to be
fighting in the church. Now tell me mz. mistress, who would look bad, me
fighting over my husband (which let me just put in perspective, never that
- over the disrespect because done right, she could have had him), or you
fighting over someone else's husband - DUH!!! I remember first FINALLY
talking to her (I took up the wrong career - I should have been a detective
cause trust - I find out EVERYTHING I want to know - eventually. Anyway
the conversation went as such: [Me] "Are you dealing w/___?" - [She] "Who
are you?" [M] I'm Mrs. ____ [S] Well he said you weren't together [M] We
are very much together (at that time it was 15 years), we've been married
for 15 yrs, we have two sons, we still live in the same apartment, we still
sleep in the same bed, we still Fk (sorry for the religious ears but I'm
keeping it real as it was said), how much more "together" can you be than
that [S] well he said you weren't (she tried to stay with that scripture
I'm sure because the reality now came to life in her marvelous world of "I
gotta man"). I simply explained to her that in almost every marriage there
are ups and downs just as we have been having but I am not ghost YET! and
may I repeat - we're moving on into 20 years in 3 days - now he's good (and
just in case you my lady may have come across this site like I did and be
reading this - was he worth the 2 years of loss of your life to MAYBE have
found a man to really have to yourself). At one point he even tried to say
that she was a better woman than me (why, because she swallowed and I
didn't, or maybe because she allowed you to sleep w/her and another woman
and I, your wife, would not accept that); please explain, single woman with
two bastard children - NEVER BEEN MARRIED TO EITHER FATHER, one which I
learned even took her for a DNA because he didn't trust her, and now
exploiting herself bedding down a married man in front of her children no
less - ??????? I went on to tell her that as much as it would hurt me if he
chose her over me that I would have to accept that, but the bottom line was
that was the only way that they would have an "open" relationship as long
as I was "MRS. ____ and if anything if he's so much in love with you make
him come correct. How can you truly be happy in a relationship that you
have to hide, precise reason why I could never be "the other woman". I
like walking proud w/mine - what's my closing statement ladies and gents -
GET A DIVORCE!!!! hahahahaha - sorry couldn't resist - until the next read,
stay at peace!
I confess
02 May 2008, 11:50
ok ladies and gents!,
I was that other woman and when I finally started thinking about the wife
thats what made me hit myself upside the head. At first it was all about
me, then I thought what if that was me how would I feel. This poor woman
has no clue due to the situation what the hell is going on and her husband
is here with me. I said I will never be with this man cause if he did it
to her he would do this to me. So why am I doing this to myself? Oh
ladies it hurt bad as hell to be with this man for an extended period of
time and then finally have the strength to tell him it was over. I admit
it I feel in love with him but ladies I loved myself too much to keep it
up. We all make mistakes and I feel it is no excuse if you did not know in
the beginning cause i sure enough did not know but when you find out its up
to you to end it or continue.
Bri
02 May 2008, 16:03
I am the wife, and we have been married for a couple of months, to a man I
dated for 4 yrs. I feel he cheatin and I go through his phone and find
numbers, he lied, but the thing that hurts me the most is he say he happy
adn wants to be with me forever. But I'm working by myself and I'm ready to
leave. I was pregnant with my now 2 month old daughter and he clubbed every
weekend, meeting his girls. But there are too many diseases out there and
it aint worth it. If u think he cheatin, evidence prove it, than most
likely he cheatin. Of course he wanna sleep with me but y risk it!!
Tamela
03 May 2008, 17:14
Ms. Darlene,
I have pictures too, and I started to do the samething!!! LOL! But I
thought about it as well and decieded against it and thought that I would
let God handle it. But I have been praying and God is dealing with me. I
am getting to the point where I don't care. What is done is the dark will
come to the light. My husband use to accuse me of doing this that and
everything else. Come to find out he's the one doing dirt. I heard a long
time ago that the one doing the accusing is the one doing the dirt. This
usually proves to be true and I found out it was (i.e. pictures)he had even
sent the girl flowers, found the confirmation too!!! I was running around
pregnant and all following my husband around and everything. I am in the
wrong field too!! I should be a private eye as well. But now divorce has
been placed on the menu and we have a beautiful 3 month old and he is
running around here doing what he wants. Maybe he hadn't thought about it,
but I told him that I know he doesn't want someone to treat her like he
treats me. So now he is thinking about his actions and hopefully that will
make him change some of his ways.
Yayoupeep
03 May 2008, 19:18
Tamela, I pray God he changes.
We finished building in Oct 2007 and we are never home together to really
enjoy ourselves - he always has to go. He is probably the head doctor for
the hospital "always on call". But God be the judge for them all, ladies.
Let's just be strong.
darlene
05 May 2008, 12:34
Happy Monday Ladies,
Well the weekend has passed as well as my 20th anniversary (18 legal) with
my husband. Guess how I spent it. Alone at the Divas with Heart concert
(Patti, Diana, Chaka and Gladys) and it was off the chain. I'm not gonna
lie. I sat there periodically in a somewhat depressed mode because I was
there alone, but then I had to remind myself that being alone does not
necessarily make you be lonely. I will not continue to allow him or anyone
else to make me feel like I'm not worthy of enjoying MY life. And if it
has to be singular, then maybe that's God's way and plan. I will no longer
question but WILL allow GOD to be in control. Needless to say that some of
the songs were great reminders that I just wanted to go home and turn the
stereo on i.e., Gladys - Neither one of us wants to be the first to say
goodbye (but we're living a lie). Then she did a rendition of I'm not
you'r super woman (I'm not the kind of girl that you can lay down and think
that everything is ok) what!!! Chaka did her I'm every woman and you know
Patti just laid herself out on the floor - it was awesome and none of it
was about a man!!! We as woman can make it! But we have to first love
ourselves and then have enough love for women overall to not disrespect
each other. I came home and got in the bed content. When he came in he
presented me with flowers and a kiss (happy anniversary). I told him to
keep them - lol. It completely threw him off because I guess I was
supposed to be elated - NOT!!! I gave myself the greatest gift that day - a
moment of peace and a shot of happiness! Good luck to us for whatever
comes of this. We just bought a new house and he's happy getting it set up
and I'm taking baby-steps to finally move in. We've only had it since
November but I'm literally staying put until I have no choice but to move.
Only God can save this joke of a marriage.
Tamela
05 May 2008, 14:33
Good Day Ladies!!!
Good for you Ms. Darlene. Sounds like you had a wonderful time. I am
happy for you. I don't know if you fuys have listened to Marvin Sapp
"Never would have made it" This is my new theme song. I have to think of
what God has brought me through and I know that God will deliver us from
what we are going through now ladies. And what we are missing in our
marriages God can and will provide. We don't need to look to things or
people for what is lacking in our lives if we look to GOD!!!
Ladies, have a wonderful week in GODs' PEACE!!
Maybe we should somehow exchange emails and continue to lift each other up
when need be. I don't know. Ya'll can let me know what you think!
PEACE!!!
Darlene
06 May 2008, 13:17
Thank you Tamela. You are absolutely right and I love that song! It was
funny because I don't for one minute claim to be the holiest but do know
that I have ALL my faith and belief in God Almighty. Not knocking anyone
else's religious beliefs but I do fear the Lord and continually ask for His
guidance when I'm low-spirited. So when I went to the concert on Sunday I
felt a little guilty because my auxilliary in church was having a program
and my girlfriend text me asking where was I and I told her on my way to
the Diva's concert. So in my mind I convinced myself that even though it
wasn't a "gospel" concert, they were still spiritual women giving a message
through song. Truth be told, all you have to do sometimes is listen to the
message, the lyrics says so much. I know we sometimes get caught up with
the music but seriously listen to the words. But I will say that you and I
were on the same thought path i.e., emailing etc. I was wondering where
everyone who has shared a thought were residing, I myself in NY.
Trust God
07 May 2008, 07:41
I am the wife whose husband has left his family for whores. He feels like
he has to have sex all the time so he would rather be unhappy with his life
and have all the sex in the world than be happy at home and have sex
sometimes. I'm sorry I couldn't have sex 24-7 because I was working two
jobs, working on getting two degrees, and raising a child and pregnant. I
was mad and crzy at first because he left us when my son was just born. He
chose hoes over me and our children. Now I am living my life according to
God's will and now everytime he comes around he is so sad while I am happy.
All I can say is what goes around comes around because most of these girls
knows he is married but just because he say he isn't happy they buy into
it. Have more self respect for yourself because believe me when you meet
that person that you marry the same thing will happen to you if you are
messing around with a married person. That is why I can sit around with my
head held high because if we get a divorce I know God is going to bless me
and if we don't and he does eventually come home he is going to be so sorry
that he will have so much to make up for. Women find out who u r dating
before you give it up.
The other women
08 May 2008, 07:58
I am the other women. I have been for four years. Honestly, we both started
out just friends and in grew into a romance without us even thinking about
it. At the time I was in a relationship and he was married and still is. We
talked about everything and have fun together. I am not asking for him to
leave his wife and I don't mind if I am the "other women". I have talked to
the wife and she knows who I am also. So my question is....I know I am not
the only one who is okay with dating a married. Some women just want to
have fun too! If it happend to be with a married man ..sorry. Reality is in
this day and age all men cheat. Doesn't matter where you meet them. You
either accept his actions, nag them to death about their actions, or simply
move on.
Yayoupeep
08 May 2008, 09:35
Darlene, Congrats. I will be celebrating 3 yrs on May 20 and I pray that
at least I can do something as fun as you did - it will please my heart.
Tamela, I agree that we can communicate by email to lift each other up. I
am from St. Vincent. Be blessed everyone of you.
To the other woman I will continue to pray for you, seriously. I just
took a call and it was him stressing me out again.
Darlene
08 May 2008, 10:53
To the other woman,
You speak as though you're proud of your actions. But whether or not
you're willing to admit it, you are probably a lonely miserable woman
inside. For you to settle with someone who is attached, legally moreso to
someone else is having no self-esteem. As far as the wife speaking with
you about it, unfortunately sometimes (as I did myself) we (wives) don't
back out. Or could it be that she's allowed herself to become part of your
tryst. You sound just like a girlfriend of mine whom I lost respect for.
She stood by my side and hurt for me seeing what my husband was putting me
threw. Called him everything but the child of God and tried her best to
convince me that he didn't deserve me (TRUE). But what does she do - she
ends up sleeping with a married man. And to some extent sounded like you
but maybe with a little different twist; she had the nerve to be upset with
the wife, called her stupid and everything for not leaving her husband
after knowing about her and speaking with her. What nerve. Long story
short. He beat her azz. Hard. In front of her daughter. And guess what.
Nothing happened to him and she ended up being locked up for assault
(self-defense). Why - because he happened to be a cop. And it just goes
back to say that in the end you're hanging onto and hurting a lot more than
you can imagine, especially if children are involved. You really need to
check yourself and throw away the patch of pride because you have nothing
to stand proud of. And to say that you're sure you're not the only woman
doing it - so the hell what if you're not - do you eat, shyt and sleep
based on whether or not others do. Keep living. Karma is a MFer - believe
that! I hope you have enough sense to use something. Read between those
lines coming from "THE WIFE". The joy of a moment of sexual gratification
is not always a happy ending (physically)!! So explain that to the next one
if you dare.
Nish
08 May 2008, 14:21
I don't know where to begin, cause I'm going through the same things as
these wives are and like Darlene this web site was sent to me to read about
the fool that is spreading HIV.
I must say that I felt like I was all alone in this, so to read that there
are others out there that is going through the same thing make me feel like
i'm not alone.
So many women say what they will do if they find out that their husband is
cheating and like myself I thought if I find out that my husband is
cheating on me I'm going to leave him, well he has and as of March we have
been together for 19 years and we are still together and I can't really say
if I'm going to leave him or not, I have some feelings that I am working
through right now.
Darlene
08 May 2008, 14:25
To the other woman - I'm sorry everyone else who is reading this and may
feel like I'm putting too much in it - but you never did finish your
sentence. You said "So my question is. . ." what? And I will be the first
to admit that psychologically maybe I need to stop reading these responses,
especially when they come from "the other women" because I am really
feeling burnt inside all over again. But one word of advice to you and the
many "others", you'd better watch your bold actions. Fortunately on here
you can hide behind words and a "fake name". But your laying down with
another woman's husband may not be your last lay - you may end up finding
the "right one" and may end up laying in your grave. Everyone is not
emotionally stable for this crap - I will be the first to say that I know I
became homicidal (thoughts - let's keep that clear) and fortunately for me
I let God take control of my mind, body and soul to calm my fears and renew
my strength to guide me in the right direction. But read the news sista -
everyone is not made of steel and some even fall into such a state of
depression that they feel there's nothing to live for. You may get the
surprise of your life and it don't have to be the "friendly and
understanding" wife. Sometimes there are others in the family or strong
enough friendship that will act in defense of a person if they feel that
individual cannot handle a situation on their own. Obviously this is not a
threat because I don't know you personally from Adam but just keep in mind
- It's not a game!
KS
08 May 2008, 19:47
I have a similar story the only difference is I didn't sleep with him. It
started off as a friendship and then it became more. What I mean is we did
everything that a couple would do. We traveled, talked daily and saw each
other daily. At first I didn't think anything of it until I notice he was
the only man in my life. I nevered dealt with a married man and I wanted to
keep it that way. I had to get a hold of myself and realize that karma is a
beast and morally I was wrong. I thank God that I had the strength not to
sleep with him because once that happens that changes the relationship
forever. I recently ended the friendship and I feel a heavy burden lifted
off of me. It is taking me sometime to get over talking daily, seeing him
and traveling. I deserve my own man not her/another women's man.
1st Wife
09 May 2008, 09:32
I feel for the wife and the "other woman". I am a wife, so I know what it
feels like to know your husband is messing around on you and to feel
helpless. I also feel for the other woman because I think they must have
very low self-esteem to want to be with someone else's man and to allow him
to treat you this way. Don't get me wrong, I've put up with a lot from my
husband over the years, but openly allowing some man to go home to his wife
and kids every night is a different story. I must say, I've never been the
other woman, but that's a choice I made for myself. I think woman who say
"it just happened" is full of "sh**". Once you starting having
friendship's with men you are opening yourself up to a possible affair.
Yes having that attention I'm sure is gratifying, but we are emotional
creatures so not becoming attached is almost impossible for a woman. My
marriage isn't the best, so I know I'm vulnerable, which makes me avoid
male friendships even more. Of course the grass is greener on the other
side, especially when you are always fighting with your husband. I say
wake-up ladies, we need to quit allowing these men to walk all over us.
It's hard enough as a wife to do it, but these "other woman" are not making
the situation any better for anyone,especially themselves.
Tamela
09 May 2008, 10:40
1st wife,
You are absolutely correct. These women are lonely and I can tell you that
because I know that. I not just saying it. And yes you reap what you sow,
but to flat out and just do it because that is what you want to do because
you don’t care that he goes home to someone else and accepting what you
can get is just crazy. In about 99.999999% of all cases, the man does stay
with the wife. As I said before, its cheaper to keep her.
Ms. Darlene,
You shouldn’t feel guilty about not going to your church function. You
enjoyed yourself at the concert. Your relationship is with God and not
man, understand that. So you shouldn’t feel guilty about not attending,
nor should you let anyone make you feel that way. All you ladies have
helped me in more ways than you know. Even the "other woman," because I
know whether my husband is lying or telling the truth, that she does know.
And ladies the 80-20 Rule is real. Believe it! I had a friend tell me
just yesterday. The good women have the bad husbands and the good husbands
have the bad women! Think about it. Have a wonderful and blessed weekend
ladies.
Woman at the well
09 May 2008, 19:33
I met a man who changed my life and he loved me more than any man had ever
loved me before. I was going through divorce and my ex was doing
everything in his power to destroy me despite the fact that I was raising
our children. I left him because after 20 years of me dealing with him
smoking crack cocaine the 1st half of our marriage and physically and
mentally abusing me the entire time, he decided to cheat. It broke the
camels back and I left him. This man was an aquaitenance and I know I got
involved with a married man to get over my husband. What was meant to be a
rebound turned into an addiction. He taught me how to be a woman sexually
and I responded by loving him unconditionally. Something I could never
feel for my ex-husband. This man was married. I knew it but I didn't
care. Eventually I let God back into my life and his wife became more real
to me. However I could not get untangled - I loved him because we went too
far with intimacy. I did things I know his wife never did. I became his
other wife. I did it because I wanted to feel like a real wife. He was
always there he called me wife and he played the roll. But I kept praying
because I knew better what God really wanted for me. Eventually I began to
fall apart because I was torn between God's will for my life and my love
for this man. So I began to pray that God would make me strong enough to
walk away with out myself falling apart. Slowly God began to meet my
financial and spiritual needs as I continued to fast and pray and I started
going back to church regardless to my relationship with this man. I never
denied that I loved him to myself or God. I just asked for God's will in my
life and that he would protect my heart. You see months earlier I almost
took my life because he wouldn't leave his wife. One day he just left me.
I called at first and begged. He never answered the phone or my calls.
Then one day I started looking at this man for what he was - a liar. I
made a vow to God and never looked back. That was almost a year ago. I
don't have anyone in my life right now. That is okay. Most men tell me
they only want sex anyway. Nasty. I love myself, I love my life, and I love
God for setting me free. I always think of him and sometimes I dream of
him. God has kept him away from me. If I ever see him I don't know what
I'd do - I still love him. One thing for certain God is on my side and I
pray he will always work it out. He will. Wives don't hate the other
women. When I forgave my husband I constantly had to say God love's him
too. I prayed for his happiness so he would be a better person to the
people who loved him and now he takes care of business and we are friends.
Pray for the other women and love her. That's what she wants and really
needs. In this she will feel God's love one day and leave your husband's
love alone. Sorry this is long. I hope it helps the one who took the time
to read it.
May God be with each and every one of you.
Yayoupeep
11 May 2008, 13:51
Woman at the Well,
You went through this so you can help us understand what "the other woman"
feels. With all respect to you I don't care how she feels. Maybe in a
country as yours it may be difficult to find out whether a man is married
in a blink of an eye but in my country you don't have to blink and the
information is right there. These women (most of them) are just there to
be with men who are married, they claim the treatment is better. They want
to live free without committing to a home with the same men and the list
goes on. I am sick of them because they are hurting me and the others here
and many others like my aunt who ended up in a mental home. I have to move
on to forgive, my sister-in-law told me recently that she has to do the
same. You have moved on FORGIVE YOURSELF and be glad you made it out.
Darlene
12 May 2008, 12:32
I'm with you on that Yayou. To hell with the other woman. The ONLY
benefit that I will give them is IF they claim that they didn't know the
man was married, because unfortunately sometimes you do get involved from
the beginning with a lie. But like in my case, the other woman knew
straight out that my husband was a married man. I don't care how much she
wanted to believe that we weren't together, he was married. And as long as
it's still legal on paper, it's legal off. If the man really wanted out,
I'm sure in almost 98% of the time the woman is NOT holding onto them or
making it hard for them to leave. Sure, none of us really wants the
marriage to end in the way of feeling we were walked out on for someone
else. But I dare not believe that the most of us woman are not strong in
our own right to say, bye bye even with tears in our eyes. My whole thing
was as I admitted, it would hurt but I'll get over it. Do it right. The
truth is like what 1st wife said. That instant gratification and need to
feel loved is not blindsighted. You women know what is bound to happen
when you allow yourself to entertain with another male. Especially if
there is (which is almost always the case) any slim sign of flirtation.
The thing is it just makes you feel worthy compared to whatever situation
you have been allowing yourself to deal with. And sad to say so many
females live with that attitude that anything is better than nothing at
all. B.S.!!!! I can do bad all by myself. So just for the sake of saying
I have someone laying next to me even if they're treating me like pure shyt
rather than be by myself is acceptable, I beg to differ. It's not about
feeling sorry for the other woman but it should moreso be about feeling
sorry for all women who can't seem to let themselves shine for themselves
rather than being victorious in feeling you have someone's arm to hold onto
even if that arm is shared by another.
Women at the well
13 May 2008, 07:05
When I met Jesus at the "well", I wasn't looking for Him, but he was
looking for me. He knew exactly who I was and He loved me anyway. You
never hear anything else about my 5 husbands and he never once mentions any
of you other than the fact that you were waiting to throw your stones and
kill me. Yet, everyday more and more women are brought to the well and
saved, loved and forgiven. When I bent down and poured my oil on his feet
your husbands wanted to kill me and throw stones, but Christ protected me.
He loved me even more. My tears washed his feet and my pain touches many of
women everwhere. Christ put my story in the bible and Christ put your
story in the book. He talked about how you were so jealous of the other
women you forgot who you were and that you have a purpose to build a nation
and not tear it down. If you want the other women to go away then take the
focus off of her and put it on yourself. You don't have to have another
woman in your life. You husband wants her there so your problem is him not
her. Love yourself enough and love your children enough to walk away from
a situation you obviously have no control over. Tell yourself like you are
telling us that you are worth more and there is nothing wrong with waking
up alone. Everyday he tells you that he either can't commit or simply you
aren't good enough. When you get tired of fighting ghost and ready to deal
with the woman who isn't good enough to have a man that won't lie you will
stop hating and claiming to love Christ. Jesus loved us despite our sins
and he commands us to love one another. It is the GREATEST commandment. I
love you with the stones in your hands and I will keep praying for all
"people" (it happens to men too) who have a broken heart. I love you my
sisters and I am sorry for what your husband and his lovers did to you.
However don't think that Jesus doesn't see you crying out to him with your
foot on my neck. Somehow I am sure it doesn't work like that.
Darlene
13 May 2008, 09:25
Woman at the well. Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds as though you at
one time or another was/is that "other woman". Don't for a minute get it
twisted. I have God wholeheartedly in my life, but I'm not perfect. If I
were so totally made of this "stone" there would be no need for Christ in
my life or for me to continue to seek Him. So please don't come with all
the soulful scriptures about what or whom we should believe in etc. We are
of the flesh naturally with natural feelings. The Bible also talks of
fornication and adultery. Why are you not chiding on those scriptures when
it comes down to the wrong that was obviously committed. Keep reading all
scriptures, don't pick and choose what you feel is beneficial, "you reap
what you sow".
Annette
13 May 2008, 12:03
I have been the other woman as well. I am not proud of it. I truely believe
I started not caring about the other woman because I once was the other
woman. I know two wrongs don't make a right but inside I felt better.
Darlene
14 May 2008, 08:14
Annette,
Did you mean that you started not caring about the wife? Let's face it.
We call can fall short and make a mistake. But as my Bishop once told me,
don't wallow in it. Pick yourself up and straighten out. So back to
basics, we first should try hard to not get "caught up" in a situation that
we should realize is not for the good to not after the fact express any
regrets. From the writings it appears as though we are all over the
adolescent stage of our lives i.e., not just venturing into adulthood for
the first time to maybe be blinded. So we are only fooling ourselves when
we allow ourselves to be fooled, or better said, be made a fool of.
Yayoupeep
14 May 2008, 14:48
Ladies, Ladies, I have taken this dicussion so seriously that I rush home
to my comfort to read what was posted for the day but today I had to laugh.
I laughed when I read "Woman at the Well's" latest comment. I can not
comprehend your position on this whole thing even after you were the other
woman. Thanks Darlene (you are the leader for this group, girl you go)your
comment came through. Woman at the Well another way of getting forgiveness
is forgiving ourselves. We are humans and sometimes 70 x 70 for another is
like nothing I am not putting up with no one who is having an affair with a
married woman or man. I dropped a friend for that because I know it hurts.
It hurts like hell. Your spirituality came through however but you are
missing somethings that are very important as Darlene mentioned.
Annette sometimes our experiences make us wish that they only happen to
those we hate, so I can't understand how you went out and did just what was
done to you ( I hope I made this point clear)
sophia
15 May 2008, 09:47
hi
Darlene
15 May 2008, 10:32
Hi Sophia,
Welcome. Don't be shy girl let it out. Unless you just took this as an
intteresting read we'd love to hear your story, or even your view of this
type of messy living. Thanks Yayou. I wasn't trying to be the leader but
I often seem to carry that role well (LEO - Holla!!!) lol - But like I said
earlier, the more I read the more my spirits get turned from ignorance.
What is it going to take for these women to wake the hell up. It's not a
joke and a very dangerous game. Do you not value your life more than a
moment's pleasure. And sometimes it's not even all that you may have
expected but for a free movie and a dinner ticket you'd succumb to
accepting the role as a mistress. Please. I just got off the phone with a
dear friend/family member and even expressed to her how I've made up in my
mind be it my husband or a straggler that tries to get in my space - I'm
worth more than a moment. We have to have self-worth first to shine
through that anyone coming our way will recognize that game knows game and
it won't be played with us. I was looking at Katt Williams (the comedian -
pimp) on my daughters ipod this a.m. and one thing he said is true,
"ladies, don't blame us men for your low self-esteem" - the key word is
self and what we allow to happen in our lives starts with just that
"selve". As far as you Annette, I have to say that I made a promise to
myself (any I pray to stand strong to this), I would not allow myself to
lay with another woman's man KNOWING he was not free and single. The sad
thing is that sometimes it takes something actually happening to you for
you to know what the hurt feels like to understand and not want to repeat
those actions. Don't get mad and do it to someone else without a care or
concern. If it hurt so bad then go after the ones that placed the hurt in
your heart like I did. It took some time but it finally got shut down.
Now the question is, how much do I feel it was worth the energy. Because
after the fight, be it physical or mental, which mine was a mental fight,
you sometimes look back and say I should have let her have this piece of
shyt headache since she felt she had something so good. Oh and fyi Yayou,
you're not alone in anticipation of what the next comments are going to be
- lol.
annette
15 May 2008, 12:13
I have to say I am hearing what you ladies are saying loud and clear. I am
an independent 34 year old woman who is just out to make herself happy. I
haven't been with the married man, but my question is why is it that noone
is focusing the blaim on the man... He is usually the one that is the
aggressor. And in my case he was the one making the moves and flirting like
he doesn't have a wife. I don't ask about his home life because that
doesn't concern me. I know for sure I won't continue with the advances but
I really feel all the hostility should be toward the men !!
Darlene
15 May 2008, 13:06
FYI Annette,
I can't speak for anyone else but in my case it wasn't just towards the
mistress. But overall yes she did get the blunt of it because as we know,
men for the most part are dogs and they'll yield to any wild bitch (female
dog) that will easily spread it for them. So to say that your concern is
not with his home life is just you being a selfish winch (trying to control
the language). And not taking up for the "man" but trust me, they're not
the ones who is always doing the pursuing. I know for a fact that the
female that mine ended up with is one amongst a few known whores and
chasers of ANY man. So again it's as though you're trying to justify your
infidelity and unstable way of being an honorable woman. If you give
yourself the time to check self, I'm sure you'll come up with a more
meaningful way of making yourself happy because for what you have done was
not self-happiness. You sought out somebody to make you whole. And to
fall into that trap is not being independent. Check with a thesaurus and
see the meaning of independence - it certainly isn't one whom seeks someone
for fulfillment to enjoy - or as you put it - make yourself happy. Every
dog (biatche!!) has her day. It's one thing to acknowledge that you've
made bad decisions and choices that have caused someone to hurt but it's
another thing to attempt to justify it and having basically "I don't give a
shyt" attitude knowing the effects that it placed in ones life. I sure
hope you don't have children to have to become victims of the karma that
will surely come back and bite you in the ass!
Yayoupeep
15 May 2008, 17:47
Darlene, I am Leo too (July 26). Annette you are displaying a level of
selfishness in your comment - YOU NEED TO CHECK HIS BACKGROUND. Check them
out thoroughly they lie a lot and even in the lie some women know the truth
and they still fall for them and even more than if they did not know. Some
women just love married men and they will always get licks when I have to
deal with them I have no sympathy. Won't you check his sexual behaviour
before you start sleeping with him even with a condom?
Tamela
15 May 2008, 19:14
Hey!!
Ya'll are funny. Yes, this is true Ms. Annette. Maybe we should blame the
men, but as Ms. Darlene says, there are women out there that know and the
proceed to do the things they do anyway. Some of these women look for
married men to get them where they want them and don't care who they hurt
in the process. They don't care what the man says, they usually end up
taking the man's kindness for a weakness. Oh, and believe me I get with my
husband and the witches that interfere, because most of them are in the
church!!!
And yes Ms. Darlene you are the leader of the pack!!
Holla
Darlene
16 May 2008, 08:03
Tamela you funny girl - lol - Let me find out we go to the same church.
But seriously, like Yayou says some of you woman just look for an excuse to
justify your wrong knowing straight up what you're getting into. The prime
answer is when you can't NEVER call him at home; you can't NEVER go to his
home (or a B better not be found in mine even if they sneak you up in there
thinking "she won't be home no time soon); he miraculously only have a cell
phone number; can you ever meet his kids if he has some; and the list goes
on. So I'm not even really feeling anyone claiming outright "I didn't
know". Especially when they seem to have been involved for a good period
of time. Tamela, Hollering back atcha Leo woman. Don't know about you but
this lion can be your best friend or your worst enemy. Pick your battle
with me because my life has been preyed upon for too long already. You know
how we get down - lol.
Big B
16 May 2008, 11:31
Hello Ladies, I have been reading everyone's comments for a few days now
and I didnt know if I was going to post anything but decided that I would
after hearing these latest comments. Darlene and Yayou I am a leo woman as
well and yes we do tend to be leaders but I also feel in reading these
comments that you are blaming the women more than you are blaming your men.
I have more in common with you then just being a leo, I too have been
married for 18 years and my husband has cheated on me as well. So I am not
just talking, I do share the same experience with many of you. I guess
when I am reading these messages it sounds like most of the women are just
accepting the fact that their husband cheated and are wishing the woman
would just leave the husband alone. Well it's not that simple. Even if
that women chose to leave the husband alone, I am sure there would be many
other woman who would take her place.
Yayoupeep
16 May 2008, 16:03
Welcome Big B, I hear you but my gut feelings is that the other woman was
the one to be dealt with following the letter - she is the center of this
virus/bacteria (you choose a name) that is affecting our marriages and
causing the muscles to pain and weaken. The man is bad (if you chose virus
then he is the AIDS itself) and we know but please note that because I am
not banging him here it means that I am not not angry at him. I have
almost lost my sexlife (am 33), we have no social life, every discussion is
a quarrel and the list goes on. So we can discuss him but I think the way
things started it is continuing in the same direction of hitting the other
woman. Please help me Darlene lol.
Tamela
19 May 2008, 11:47
Good Afternoon Ladies,
The thing is that we are blaming the men, but its also those women out
there that are so lonely that they settle for what they are getting as if
that is okay. I believe that if women would stop settling for the married
men, they (the men) would give up and try to work on what they have at
home. But "other women" continue to feed into the egos of these married
men. I spoke to one this weekend who thinks that is okay to call my
husband "baby" and they exchange I miss you's like that is okay. No it's
not. Yes, I called her!!! And I spoke to him as well. I just can't do it
anymore. If they both think this okay behavior for a married man to
continue to do, then, I am sorry, but I won't continue to live a life like
this. Yes, filing for divorce because this not okay behavior for me. My
young daughter (3 months) may think this is okay as she get older. And I
don't want this example to be a part of her life. If he would draw the
line then maybe these women wouldn't think that it was okay to carry on
conversations with my husband like this. But since he can't then maybe a
women with common sense and would stop and think that "hey this man is
married and its' not okay for me to do this with him." But these "other
women" are doing that. They are lonely and seeking something from someone
who should at all time be unavailable to them until they see divorce papers
or know that the person isn't married. Well from me, in the next 60 days,
HELL all them witches can have his trifling a$$!!
Holla
Have a good week ladies!!!!
Yayoupeep
19 May 2008, 15:57
I hear you Tamela. I am still working on the strength to get rid of my
pain. I can identify with you with the name calling and feeling that it is
ok. There is one who calls my husband "babes" all the time, "babes" is the
name of a pig but he don't know that. When the tables turn he would be
asking to be called another name. Tomorrow is my anniversary, I hope that
at least I can pour my heart out about what make me sad and get some sort
of comfort that things would be different. If it does not happen it will
be business as usual. Be blessed all.
Darlene
20 May 2008, 09:11
Hello Ladies (and gents if any),
Welcome Big B. Don't take this wrong but I first thought you were gonna be
a male speaking from your tag - lol. But let me set the record straight.
And as always I can only speak for ME. I in no way only blame the women.
Not at all. But if you go back to the beginning this has basically been a
forum where we WOMEN are attempting to reach out to the weak at heart and
unconcerned other females. I can't even tolerate to identify them as women
who don't feel to have respect for another. But then again you can't
expect them to respect someone else when they lack self-respect. So if it
makes anyone feel better, I had my husband locked up on his birthday when
he dared shoved me around to get at his phone so he would be able to
contact his bitchstress. Mind you, the phone I BOUGHT HIM. That was just
a start to show him that I was no joke and not to take my heart and play
with it like I'm someone to just shyt on. Trust me, the list goes on but
for now he's not important or the focal point. I made a comment just last
nite to my daughter about things that have come out of his mouth etc.
EVERY DOG HAS HIS DAY and from this day I choose to let the Lord fight my
battle. Trust me it will be a losing battle for the enemy with God on my
side. I'm sure I can speak for most of us here, we DO REALIZE that it's
our husband, men or whatever you want to classify them as that is the cause
for the start of infidelity in our relationships but it still goes back to
women respecting each other. What's that old saying, "I can talk about my
mother but you'd better not". Same scenario. Inasmuch as we may be
idiotic for sticking with them, they have still become part of our lives,
in most cases I'm sure blood of my blood (children) so the likelihood is
that we may attempt to keep things wholesome where that woman that allowed
herself to be a shadow of a marriage is cause and effect to be screamed
upon. Don't try and make the wives feel like we're out of place or
misdirecting blame - if you allowed yourself to become a part of the drama
then you should blame yourself for any repercussions that come your way -
plain and simple - again, was they lay that great, because in the end
you're home alone.
Darlene
20 May 2008, 12:17
Sorry for the interruption but I tend to go back and re-read comments and
this goes out to Big B. My situation was not that I was just accepting the
cheating and wishing for the woman to leave him because I told the both of
them that they were free to have each other as long as it was done with
respect for me - DIVORCE!!! I may have tolerated a lot but one thing I
didn't and won't is for any man to blatantly walk around in my face
outright displaying another woman. I will not sit here and act as though
my life is a clean slate i.e., I have done my share of stepping out as well
throughout our dramatized marriage. But at NO time was my husband ever
able to say he knew what was going on in my life. His has ALWAYS been an
assumption. And for the record I need to rephrase this statement. I DID
NOT CHEAT. I allowed myself to be entertained by another when my husband
chose to step out on me claiming "we were not together", yet still tried my
best to indulge with respect for any and all concerned so as not to have
any drama. But if at any time things would have come to a head I would
have been able to stand strong in my husband's face without any conviction
with the other man and say my husband denied being with me whereas I tried
to keep my marriage in tact. I never had any male friends that my husband
was not in the knowledge of or whom I could not bring to the forefront.
There was no mystery about mine. That goes out to all the females with the
nicknames for these married men i.e., babes, baby etc. who claim they are
just friends. Question: are you friends with the wives? Case closed. Yet
and still they can go around covorting with females (friends) and it's
supposed to be ok but will lose their minds truth be told if the wife comes
home talking about her friend Bob that they have yet to meet. Please.
Millie
20 May 2008, 15:42
Hello Ladies,
I am not the wife or the other woman! I am a 28yr. old woman who is afraid
of marriage. I sat here for an hour and read a lot of the comments(some
three times)appauled by some of the responses. All I have to say is "the
other women are nasty ass bitches whom need to get their own!!!!! Nobody
these days understands the true meaning of marriage! It hurts to know that
some individuals would have the nerve to intentionally mess up a MARRIAGE!!
U bitches are nasty and have no respect for yourself, your mother and the
rest of the female race. Women need to stick together instead of hating on
one another!!!!!!!!!
To the wives keep your heads up and I will continue to pray for you all!!!
Fuck the other woman, they aint women they WEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Darlene
21 May 2008, 07:00
Millie you are a woman after my own heart. Word of advice, stay single for
a minute. Live and enjoy your life and make sure you get all of the fun
and playing out of your life before you allow yourself to be commited to
anyone. Because as you can somewhat see from these comments, the scales
are pretty much one-sided. The woman (in most cases) give their
relationship their all while the men seem to still be studying their ABCs.
I have 2 daughters, one who is married and have been thru the whirlwind
with her husband and my other daughter lost her husband at 25 but was also
taken thru the mill. So live until you know or at least can somewhat feel
truth in sharing your life - let's see, maybe by the time you need to be in
a rocking chair - lol.
Tamela
21 May 2008, 09:51
Right on Ms. Darlene.
Millie take your time. I am not too much older than you and believe me.
Take your time. Pray that God leads you to what he has for you. When you
let Him lead you, you won't have to worry about the things we do. Not to
say you won't have problems in your marriage. But when you hear from God
you know that you are doing the right thing. If He says run!!! You better
RUN!!!!!!!! But we all know that He will never leave or foresake us.
Enjoy your life. I miss mine, being able to come and go. Jet out of town
at the drop of a dime. But when I got married I was ready to put all that
behind me and start a family. I thought my husband was too. But he still
thinks as an individual. Once I married him,I met the real him!!!! But
again, I didn't seek God like I should have.
Darlene
23 May 2008, 10:55
On a different note, I would like to wish everyone a safe and happy
Memorial Day weekend.
Tamela
23 May 2008, 13:38
Same to you Ms. Darlene.
And to everyone else the same. ENJOY!!!!!
Big B
23 May 2008, 14:28
Hello again ladies,
It has been a busy week. I have to thank you all for your comments and I
am glad to see that you are blaming the man as well as the woman. I guess
I felt like in my situation the other woman actually called me to tell me
about the affair. Okay of course she only did this after my husband tried
to break it off with her and she got upset but either way, I thanked her.
I thanked her for being woman enough to tell me because he certainly wasnt
going to be man enough to tell me. I felt like she didnt really owe me an
explanation but he did. I still look back on it and think had she not told
me, would I have ever known? Probably not. I didnt have a long drawn out
conversation that she would have probably wanted. I think she was trying
to get some answers from me. I held my head up high and thanked her for
the information and politely hung up the phone. I think she thought I was
going to cry and scream and tell her that she could have him or whatever.
That is not what happened. I was not going to give her that satisfaction.
I think she was confused because I remained calm the whole time.
P.S. Darlene, I am all woman believe that! lol...
Angela C
23 May 2008, 21:25
Wow, I have been reading this I am real confused. It sounded to me like
the other woman said she found forgiveness, but the wives still hated her
and the husbands hated her because she wasn't what you all are calling a
"whore" anymore. She also said that the husband is the one walking out on
you and yet I still hear a lot of bitterness and hate towards the other
woman. I am divorced. My husband was always sorry. Time after time he
was always sorry. I just got tired of being lied to so I left. I just
can't understand for the life of me why anyone would stay with a liar. The
other woman seems to be doing a lot better than you. Looks like she moved
on and is happy. But I don't hear any thing positive being said about your
sisters, and here is just a lot of angry meaness and you all seem bitter.
It will eat you up and kill you. Show some love to your enemies.
Yayoupeep
24 May 2008, 16:56
I hope everyone is enjoying the weekend so far. I am even with just going
to church and back. I am looking forward for tomorrow where I just relax
myself and then prepare for work on Monday.
Big B, the other woman called me before I was married and after I got
married and I am sure after the divorce she may need to call me - for some
advice on how to cope because the stress that they both have been putting
on me only ME could take that (no one else would have put up with it not
even her).
The silent treatment has started in our home and I am going to stick it
out. The penalty for breaking up my marriage would be worst for the other
woman than for my husband.
Be bless you all.
Yayoupeep
25 May 2008, 08:56
Angela, sometimes we need to let go to be able to fully forgive. In my
case that is so.
Angela
26 May 2008, 16:16
Letting go. It is the most terrifying, nerve wrecking, breath taking,
relieving, exasperating, peaceful feeling I ever experienced. It is also
the most rewarding. It doesn't promise that you won't feel hurt, but it is
the beginning of healing. For all you "God fearing women" remember fear is
the opposite of faith. Faith is the courage to face our fears knowing that
God is there ordering my steps. Being able to call a man my husband is
comforting but it can also be a lie I choose tell myself. I am very afraid
of being alone, but I am at peace with not being lied to and broken
hearted. I have faith that God can heal my broken heart. I am so over
him. I don't blame anyone but him because he is responsible for the lies
and the dirt. And as my Pastor once said, we need a little dirt to grow.
It's fertilizer. His dirt sho nuff did me some good. I am better, I am
wiser, I am stronger....
Darlene
27 May 2008, 14:23
Alright now Marvin Sapp - lol. See I am about that too believe that.
Angela let me say this. Even though we seem to share some of the same
issues, each one of us have our own demon to fight off. I can't stress it
enough that in my case the woman was not to blame solely. But I am not for
one minute going to allow you or anyone else make me feel that it's wrong
to place blame on her. You speak about showing love to mine enemy - well
the saying also goes that your enemy can't harm you; those that are closest
to you which happened to have been my husband and then her allowing herself
to come into his space brought her scent home to me. I will say that for
me this was now going on back from 2003/2004 and maybe a hit and miss in
2005 after he supposedly was done with his liaison. So I have grown
tremendously - go back to my first text to see where I said my mind had
been. I passed by her in church recently and literally held her waist as I
went by saying "excuse me". That was growth. My mindset before had been
stick a knife in her back. Everybody does not have the same emotional
strength as others so you have to bare that in mind. You may have been
able to succumb your situation but who's to say how much you endured
compared to the next person. I am not a phoney person; never have been,
never will be. I pray to God and have since been given the strength to
overcome what I dealt with but this forum is just expressing and sharing
with those who have found themselves in similar situations and I'm not
going to apologize for what I truly feel about individuals who have no
problem hurting people. I always have this feeling that I even used to
have a verbal battle with my husband when he would choose to quote to me
scriptures in the Bible about a wife's place, etc. READ AND QUOTE ALL
THINGS if you're gonna go there because it goes back with part of the Ten
Commandments i.e., fornication, adultery, and the list goes on. So sorry
sista, they are not to be excused but if anything should pray for
forgiveness for their sins. I will continue to pray for my spiritual
growth and when I KNOW that I have a better emotional way of feeling, then
I can find strength to forgive those whom have caused me hurt. But guess
what, that's between me and my God. I hear you Big B loud and STRONG -
lol. Oh and FYI, yes my mindset is in the stage of letting go even though
he's doing things that would keep us together so at this point I have
allowed myself to let all the spiritual scriptures and sayings apply in my
life, LET GO AND LET GOD!!! and LET THE LORD FIGHT MY BATTLE!! Then
whichever way my life turns out I can say good and faithful servant to the
Lord's will. Believe me, I AM NOT a bad person, just have allowed myself
to be treated badly.
Tamela
28 May 2008, 12:39
And again Ms. Darlene you have capture alot of what I am feeling at this
very moment.
I can't do it! I don't believe I am a bad person either, but I hav allowed
myself to be treated that way and for the sake of my sanity and the
well-being of my child.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
Santasha Pena
30 May 2008, 07:59
I haven't scene a woman yet who has been marryied or single and has been
envolved w/another man whether marryied/single, who has dealing with him
and hasn't caught feeling yet.
Why play Games with your heart?
All your saying is "THIS MAN IS A DRUG",AND I CAN'T GET OFF HIM", are you
that weak mined, so lonely, willing to loose your respect and willing to
risk how others see you? Even if you hid it for a long time from the other
"Envolved Party", feeling change for the other spouce due to you placing
them with that other person and TRUCT me you might not even know that's
it's happening until it does Then your heart is envolved.
Who choose's to HURT their own heart, and if you do WHAT TYPE OF WOMAN DOES
THAT MAKE YOU?
Care for yourself the same way you care for that other "Man", and out back
what you took out of a "Working " relationship and that's TRUST!
Women, MEN DO NOT THINK THE SAME WAY WE DO, and they HURT DIFFERENTLY FROM
US, they don't sit around and cry and hurt like us..
Put " YOU" FIRST AND THAT INCLUDES YOUR HEART...
Let's do our math", You met a man, your envolved or not but he is ,you just
end up dealing sexually , then your finding times to fit each toher
sexually in the picture, then you start doing more things together, when
he's around you there is no other who loves you more ,but when he go's home
...you no longer exsist. Even if he seen you out he would not speak to you
but now more sneaking around no HAPPY HOILDAYS "Like MARY J", SAID...
We all know that song DON'T WE? Then feelings get envolved and here it
goes, problems....
Even if you were "Soul Mates", it will never work because to his family and
friends "You will always be that women that broke his family and you WILL
NEVER BE ACCEPTED by his family and his children (wow) that's another
subject ... especially if his wife is the one YOU PISSED off by cheating
w/him so , WHERE WILL THE HAPPYLY EVER AFTER come to play in at? DO THE
MATH LADIES...
Nothing is ever hidden for long and Sorry is suckers..
If you meet a man and he tells you HE'S NOT MARRYIED you have ever right to
choose how you want to deal with him but , if you know he's marryied and
you still decide to be envolved , GET READY AND BE PREPARED for what is to
come and that's nothing but a Life full of Secrets and THEN YOU DESERVE
EXACTLY WHAT YOU GET ....HURT!
Hurt by my husband
30 May 2008, 13:15
I'm the Wife in this case......My Ex-Husband once told me that I was not
the reason that he cheats and that my pussy is good and he's happy with
me....it's just that sometimes he wants something NEW!! So the next time a
brother rolls up and tell you that he is not happy with his marriage, make
sure you remember theses words..........."YOU ARE JUST SOMETHING NEW". Your
ass will soon become "OLD" and he'll move on to the next women. And to top
it off, he is now HIV positive...2 yrs after I divorced him. Married
women...stop allowing yourself to stay in a marriage with a cheating
husband. Married people get AIDS too.....Single women, please stop sleeping
with married men, they will kill your self esteem and may also cause more
harm than you know.
ShaShu
31 May 2008, 14:14
my input
Yayoupeep
31 May 2008, 16:27
Thank you Hurt by my husband for the kind reminder.
ShaShu, we still need to get your input.
I look forward to reading all the new comments. Darlene am sure you will
be next to comment-lol. How you doing?
Was The Wife, Now The Other Woman
02 Jun 2008, 14:39
I was married and my husband left me for the other woman. I could'nt
believe it or accept it. For a while I sat there in hopes he would come
back home, but he never did. I meet a friend come to find out he was
married. At first I really did'nt see he in no other way but someone too
talk to because I was so tired of going to my friends with the same old
song and also I figured I could get things from a man point of view, until
oneday I saw him differently. So then I looked at it like this," He's
married and I am not just yet ready for a real relationship so I will just
kick with him from time to time" Well, time to time went to 2 to 5 days a
week, whenever we was off and any other free time he could get away. More
and more I was falling deeper and deeper for him until that day came when I
decided I wanted him for myself. Now see as long as I was accepting being
the Sideline Whore it was all good, but when he saw that I wanr more
attitude, he slowly started backing away. I always would sit and question
How in the hell I got myself to where I am now. I mean, iI was once a wife
and the same thing I had done to me I am now doing it to someone else. But
I looked at it in the begining that a Bitch did'nt care about me so why
should I give a Fuck about them. Well with all that said I am back to where
I started when my Husband left me, Alone,Hurt,Depressed and Confused. I
wish I could say that they never leave there wife some of them do, mine
did, The other one did'nt
Yayoupeep
02 Jun 2008, 16:27
Was the Wife, Now the other Woman I am sorry to hear about you drama. You
seem rather hurt.
Darlene
03 Jun 2008, 10:34
Hey Yay,
I sat here reading for a minute and was indecisive as to whether I wanted
to make any more comments. For one, I didn't want to find myself coming
off or insulting anyone because it truly is not my intentions. But
Santasha, girl you gave me the only headache reading your script - lol - I
don't know if you were just speed typing or if it truly is just grammatical
error or upset but I feel your words and I appreciate them - girl after my
own heart. I guess I'm at the point that what else can I say. I put it
all out there. I saw my husband's ex (I'm assuming) this weekend and in
one hand was holding my head high because she saw me stepping out of his
car without him - so again - what does that say about where he is - but
then I found myself feeling like "what's so good about that" - he still
played me - and even though it's been going on 3 years and I try to believe
I've grown from it - I found my heart still having skipped beats - one
wanting to go up to her and knock the shyt out of her and the other saying
"you've grown past the drama". I guess the best help is accepting the true
feelings inside and seeking salvation to get beyond it - so I praised God
and asked for continued growth in my life with all aspects i.e., foul mouth
(lol), grudges (I don't say hatred because I strive really hard not to go
that deep) and peace in my life. But it's all good and with the Lord's
help it WILL get better. As for you Was, you answered your own statement -
karma is a m-fer so there's no need to bash you. But I just have to say
that to have the attitude that a B did it to you so Fk them - the problem
with that is your not Fkg the one that did it to you - so the same way it
came at you and you know the pain first hand how did you allow yourself to
remotely feel that something good was going to come in you placing that
hurt on another innocent wife who've done NOTHING to you. Not instigating
drama but if you want to hurt someone then go after the one that brought it
to you like I did. So many express that we shouldn't blame the other woman
but in your case you did the extreme - you blamed a totally innocent woman
and came between her marriage. And in the end you brought the full circle
back to yourself - the hurt, lonliness and used. Grow from this and pray
and strive to move past it for a better life. We are responsible for our
happiness so work towards making that happen if you have to find yourself
being alone for a minute. My Bishop onced preached a sermon years ago and
stated that "there are a lot of good woman out there 'stuck' with someone
bad and allowing that person to keep the good ones away from us. WE (I
include myself first and foremost) have to love ourselves MORE to flourish
and shine and KNOW we are worthy of true love. I don't know any of you
personally but I love you all as woman reaching out to each other for some
form of comforting words to overcome the torch of negative energy that
we've allowed ourselves to be consumed by. WE ARE BETTER THAN THAT AND
WORTHY!!!! KNOW IT AND LIVE IT!!!
Yayoupeep
04 Jun 2008, 09:42
Lol. Thanks Darlene, you always come through for me but I am serious I
feel Was' pains - the one she received (unfortunately) and the one she
gave. For the one she gave I get the feeling that she is hurt about it and
don't even know it. We can't do stuff like that. I am NOT going into
anyone's marriage because someone did that to me because girlfriends as we
all know - IT HURTS LIKE HELL!
Love you all I hope God is leading each of us when we make our comments so
that another can be uplifted, advised and get smarter - I am.
Angela
05 Jun 2008, 21:16
Funny thing about being angry is when the other person isn't even wasting
sleep and you are still mad. They moved on your still mad. If they did
you wrong it still seems silly to be mad at someone who "ain't even
studying you", as my nana would say. I seen plenty of angry woman lose it
and wind up in jail or dead themselves. As you say you could just snap,
but just because you snapping don't mean the other person you snapping on
doesn't have something to live for and would rather see you dead than them.
How many on this forum have lost a love one to some drama like this. Yea,
you are mad, pissed off and angry, but you better let it go or your just
another statistic. We are saying let it go because somebody out there
loves you and will soon get tired of visiting you at the jail cell. These
violent thoughts to me ain't funny and on an open forum such as this you
don't know who may get pushed to the edge. If you can't love your enemy
than speak an encouraging word to your sister. A lot of what is being said
is just black on black crime and hate. Let him go and let it go. He ain't
worth heart disease and cancer. All this hate will make you sick.
Women at the well
09 Jun 2008, 09:17
I know some of you are really into hating me, but I just wanted to share
this with those who are open to forgiving all like Christ did. I still
extend to you an olive leaf even if you choose to spit on me...
Prescribed by the Great Physician
*****************************
The next time you feel like GOD can't use you, just remember...
Noah was a drunk
Abraham was too old
Isaac was a daydreamer
Jacob was a liar
Leah was ugly
Joseph was abused
Moses had a stuttering problem
Gideon was afraid
Samson had long hair and was a womanizer
Rahab was a prostitute
Jeremiah and Timothy were too young
David had an affair and was a murderer
Elijah was suicidal
Isaiah preached naked
Jonah ran from God
Naomi was a widow
Job went bankrupt
Peter denied Christ
The Disciples fell asleep while praying
Martha worried about everything
The Samaritan woman was divorced, more than once
Zaccheus was too small
Paul was too religious
Timothy had an ulcer..AND
Lazarus was dead!
And Don’t forget—
Jesus Helped ‘em all!!!!
Now! No more excuses!
God can use you to your full potential.
Besides you aren't the message, you are just the messenger.
And one more thing...
Share this with a friend or two...
In the Circle of God's love, God's waiting to use your full potential.
1. God wants spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.
2. Dear God, I have a problem, it 's Me.
3. There is no key to happiness. The door is always
open.
4. Silence is often misinterpreted but never
misquoted.
7. Do the math .. count your blessings.
8. Faith is the ability to not panic.
9. If you worry, you didn't pray . If you pray, don't worry.
10. As a child of God, prayer is kind of like calling home everyday.
11. Blessed are the flexible for they shall not be bent out of shape.
12. The most important things in your house are the people.
13 When we get tangled up in our problems, be still.
God wants us to be still so He can untangle the knot.
14. A grudge is a heavy thing to carry.
15 He who dies with the most toys is still dead.
Have a great day!!! The SON is shining and he can certainly use you!
Darlene
09 Jun 2008, 11:15
Angela,
I think you are reading into this forum in the wrong way. From what I get
of this, including my comments, nobody is urging anyone to "hate" the next
person. We are basically expressing issues that we, for the most part,
have experienced ourselves. And whether you have been a victim of
circumstances or just someone passing thru, you CANNOT put yourself or your
feelings inside someone else's heart to know what they've been through.
Now one thing that you are on point with is that IT'S NOT WORTH IT and
someone can end up dead or in jail. I speak specifically to my life and
I'm grateful that I turned to God and He guided my footsteps from that
frame of mind. But it's one of those twisted fates, you cannot talk it if
you haven't lived it and everyone's situation is different. I applaud any
and every woman who can get past the drama. I wish it was easier for me to
just walk away and not care or feel. Unfortunately that wasn't the case.
Again, I've since grown spiritually and emotionally to not care AS MUCH!!!
I'm not going to lie to you or anyone else and act as though if the same
situation crossed my life that it wouldn't bother me. But I pray that I
don't react in the same way. I just had a small situation happen yesterday
and I caught myself and withdrew from having an attitude, and yet at the
same time checking my husband and making him realize it's not going to be
the same game again. Before it was all said and done he was apologizing to
me for me even feeling any way. That's not to say things wasn't really
what I believed them to be but that's an adjustment with attempting to show
respect or "cover up" if it was anything going on. In spite of what you
feel I personally feel this forum has uplifted each of us up to some
degree. It definitely is a good source of letting go the built in anger
and frustration that we have allowed ourselves to deal with and at least
we're letting go by banging on some keys rather than on someone's head. As
far as woman at the well, please don't come to us with that reverse
psychology and scripture. Keep in mind that what we have expressed to you
was simply based on your uncaring attitude towards another sister and her
space. But you need to forgive yourself first and personally speaking, if
you are true to yourself and to your heart and KNOW that you have been
forgiven by GOD, then nobody else should matter. Stay focused and blessed!
Tamela
10 Jun 2008, 10:08
Good Afternoon Ladies,
It's been a while. And I was reading your comments and again Ms. Darlene
you are on it as usual. I just wanted to say that it's true. It's not
worth the worry. We have to trust God to do what He said He is going to
do.
I had a come to Jesus moment a couple of weeks ago. I prayed and I cried,
prayed and cried. I admitted to my feelings about my marriage and the
things that have taken place. Whether they are still going on, I don't
know. I don't care anymore. Once I finished praying I felt so much
relief!!! It was an awesome feeling. I take one day at a time and wait
for God to do what he has to do with this marriage. My husband now is
trying to do everything possible to make it work. I guess he sees the
change in me. I no longer sit around and wait for him to do what he knows
and I know he needs to do. Yes, I still have my moments where I just want
to "Bash Mister head in." But that is not the Godly thing to do. So I
wait! It will all work out in the end.
You ladies continue to have a blessed week!
ShaShu
10 Jun 2008, 17:46
yayoupeep, I know that I have not said much,,I keep looking for the
opportunity to jump in b/c I have much to say and to ask from you ladies. I
am watching however. sorry about the suspense, it's not on purpose. May
God continue to bless you and keep you.
Women at the well...
11 Jun 2008, 13:44
I was in both pair of shoes, cheated on and cheated. I started out by
saying I was FORGIVEN AND ACCEPTED FORGIVENESS. No one wants to acknowledge
that.
A man or woman who cheats is just that a cheater. I got up and moved on.
My warning remains: that finger you pointing is causing the three pointing
back at you to be very bitter and angry.
Frankly it's just sand paper....
The other woman did you a favor, she showed you that you posses a faker.
He slept around on you because that is the type of man he is.
Can't blame another woman for that.
Yayoupeep
11 Jun 2008, 17:05
Sha Shu it is ok. You take your time but you need to ask your questions
before they change the subject.
Women at the Well, what can i say to you but to ask which of the cheating
was the hardest. I am an angry woman every day I wake up and find my
husband next to me because it is another day of having to go to my office
and not having the respect I should because of his behaviour, coming to my
office and raising his voice, ppl seeing seeing him on the weekends doing
his thing, and there can be a list.
I know that one can be forgiven but as I said before it seems that I can
only forgive my husband after I have gotten rid of him from my life. He
knows that quite well because I told him so. So while I am hard on her for
what she knew and still accepted his advances I am hard on him too.
They both will rot in hell!!!
Darlene
12 Jun 2008, 14:24
Yayou you're absolutely right. Funny how woman at the well seems to need
to justify her wrong - let's go back to scriptures - i don't recall in the
Bible it saying that adultery is only blamed on the spouse - if you allow
yourself in that world you are an adulteror, fornicator and sin-filled. So
maybe you need someone to make you feel whole and agree with you. Yes you
do need forgiveness and prayer - and because I am who I am let's just keep
it real - I'M BEING TOTALLY SARCASTIC - so what you're trying to convince
us is that because our husbands stepped out on us, whether it was is moved
or accepting the moves made on him, the woman is blameless. Plu-leeez!!!!
And not for nothing - are you only feeling this way because you yourself
committed the act? I'm sure before you ventured out you were on the same
path that we were - you indirectly admitted that when you expressed why you
did it - because you didn't care and you felt that the "other woman" didn't
care about you - so again, we are basically expressing feelings that have
been suppressed for different reasons and it helps to have peeps to share
who have been through the same or similar life!! and for the record - it
has not gone unnoticed as you seem to feel that you forgave or was forgiven
- but then again, was your forgiveness real - obviously not that you went
out for a personal vendetta of revenge - so you did you until you tired
yourself of it and then got on this holy role - i hear ya!! yeah right!!!
Big B
12 Jun 2008, 14:37
Okay okay I can't just sit back and listen to you Darlene jump all over
woman at the well and then Yayoupeep co-signing for Darlene. I think Woman
at the well brought up some valid points in the beginning but all you heard
was that she had an affair with a married man and didnt care about his
wife. After that no matter what she said, you didnt want to hear it. I
think she has already admitted she made a mistake and if you both are woman
of God like you say you are, I don't understand why you don't provide her
with counseling that it seems you provide the other woman. I think Woman at
the well was asking for friendship but instead she got two bitter woman who
could have cared less about her feelings.
Darlene
13 Jun 2008, 09:51
Big B,
You are obviously reading into it what you want as well. First off one
thing I don't do is allow someone to validate my spirituality - so for you
to tell me and yayou about being women of God check yourself - FIRST AND
FOREMOST I AM HUMAN WITH FEELINGS - and if my life was so correct and on
point I would not seek God's salvation or guidance - neither am I here to
judge someone else but what I have been doing is commenting on others'
comments - I've not given myself any props as being a "counselor" - and if
anyone else chooses to put me on that pedestal (yayou) for me personally
it's all been in fun because as was stated, none of us knows one another.
Woman at the well was contradicting her "need" for friendship - bottom line
is yes, we may come off as being bitter woman - I've NEVER denied what my
feelings were surrounding MY circumstances - don't get it twisted because
I've been nothing more than raw and real about mine - and I will stand HARD
AND STRONG on what I feel about any "OTHER WOMAN'S" stand - so don't come
on here claiming to seek understanding in one breathe and then talk out
your ass about not caring who you were hurting because you felt you were
wronged. So if you feel so sensitive for her feelings then you pacify her
and pat her on the back for having a twisted mind - I'M NOT THE ONE for
that because the bottom line is when it's all said and done - REAL TALK - I
don't give a FK about ANY OTHER WOMAN - take it however you want but do me
one and keep it real yours as I've done nothing but kept it real about mine
- FYI - I DON'T NEED ANY VALIDATION - don't turn this on us who have been
unjustly hurt for standing up to what we've been through and then throw it
at us like we have issues - Yayou - keep yours real as you've been girl -
I'm good with or without you backing my words - I'm sure you're just
speaking from your own mind and heart and not for any pride of such but
unfortunately we obviously shared the same BULLSHIT in our lives!!!! If
you can't take the truth - or better yet as it's been said - the truth
hurts - then maybe this isn't the place you should be seeking solace when
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